Shes fishing. What if its not taking place in the UK? Why does she do this. would have been cool , I somewhat agree. I guess he sort of buys the fast metabolism explanation? not sure how this is happening or how to fix it. If you want bigger spoilers, keep scrolling down. She wanted to protect the only significant thing in her life. Im not sure how this evidence would be reasoned away by the multiple personality camp. Especially if they take her prints. What would he be doing in Oxford if there was no conference? Also, I think she came up with the story about trying to drown her sister from the traditional ballad she sang. The game seems so well-designed and planned out with all these tiny details, that were all assuming he didnt make a single mistake. Maybe it will be a sequel? I absolutely agree with you. +++=DDNNDDD~~:~:::::NDD8::DDDDDD~~~~~~~~======++????? To make sure she bumped a taxi and went on to buy breakfast. If the parents were very busy and distracted all the time, they probably just wrote off inconsistencies as I must have missed something or Im losing it rather than my kid has a doppelganger.. Seriously?! , quote: Eventually Eve escapes somehow and lives in the attic If not mistaking i remember listening to a video where she explained that she was 8 years old when her midwife, Florence, died of an accident by falling of the stairs. I didnt notice it as much on my iPad as on my iPhone. So once all the clips are found and in order, you know he wasnt a twin. Being sick in the third interview? 3.) I used this website to remind my self how to do it. Is that evidence? Im guessing that these little clues might lead to some admin commands that will reveal more. And maybe Hannah spills the coffee on herself because shes muddy on the details and needs an excuse to go switch places with Eve? But maybe she was seen. Elephant AndPiggie: The Complete Collection by Mo Willems. If you don't arrive at the solution on the first try, continue doing the algorithm over and over again until you get there. While the days of the week dont match up with the altered year, thats not something Sarah would probably notice or even check upon unless she already had reason to suspect the date was wrong. However, with this as the only discrepancy, I think it takes on a special importance as (as Sam Barlow hints) a Freudian Slip. In any case, she is gone, and shes not coming back. My moves from years ago are mostly different, but my record is 1 minute and 28 seconds. Maybe it was supposed to be an example of how under pressure they were at the up interview. But can you scar your entire finger? 2) The first Interview takes place on the Sunday after I think that there idea was to make it look like sisters, or look like MPD, in the arrogant belief that there would be no way to prove it. Im going to expand on the summaries to make them more detailed. Interview 2, 25/6/1994: Hannah (Fingerprints originally taken) You can also watch this video for some ideas on where to start. The police are trying to figure out who is who (only one plays guitar). One thing that definitely struck me is that if I was Florence the baby-stealing midwife and I lived across the road from the people I stole that baby from, Im pretty sure I would try to move away because that situation was just a disaster waiting to happen! I do think both sisters are mentally ill. Eve is a psychopath and by the time this story begins Hannah has snapped as well. Ive started leaning towards MPD myself now. So they have a photo of her there, but they cant confirm how long she was there. But why would Hannah want to kill her parents? Also, Grace Kelly died in 1982 in our world. LOL Dolls. Shes not allowed to leave, but she sees her reflection freely leaving the house, having birthday parties, etc. Golden Heart Western Cutie. But even then, why not try to cover up Hannahs? Yes, the fact that the police doesnt immediately ask more about the tattoo is very weird! I have always jumped to conclusions and thought that Eve killed the parents. (hopefully not!). i found a nice website that lets you check which day of the week it was in different years (for instance 94) Third interview, having been sick. wtf do i do???? wow nice detail, i think there is something to it. good night.., When I reverse the code I get FUQMANNAN instead, so. I think it would might madness to try, but a transcript would probably be so useful. Check out the hack file, btw. I dont think even the PCs at a small police station or whereever we are runon such a small screen with an operating system pre windows 95, isnt that weird? Just re-watched that clip (this game is seriously never leaving my iPad) and she says So they came and picked us up and took me back to Portsmouth. 1984 is only 10 years earlier than 1994. MMMMMMMMMMMMMN,=~:~~=I?:::=~:~?=:::,,,,,::::~~===+IDMMMDZDDDDNN87Z? Now I kind of want to ask Sam if he ever considered that! Most of the time, she sounds like shes just telling her story to someone, and eagerly. DB344-A. Their web series has a character named Sarah Barlow. Hannah mentions how she didnt want to name her daughter Ava because it was a palindrome. I dont remember what is exactly said but here is how i understood it : -Hannah had a medical check-up after her miscarriage, and doctors told her it made her infertile. Still thinking this theory through. Its a .csv file that somebody datamined from the game. Should I delete the others? Supplier: The Legends Let me have a look at the timeframe now: But yeah, there does involve a bit of a leap of faith for either story to be believably. That would explain the 3-4 sec between each and (almost) every video. One would have an interview, then write it down. When Hannahs parents were killed, Im wondering if the third personality did it to keep the girls living together in the house they grew up in. As they seem to know each other (SB is waiting outside after she loggs out) they may have met by accident and SB recognized her from the investigation or what if the S stands for Simon 2. Also ignore the time stamps. Unless we run with the idea that her parents were hardly ever home? . Eve (if it is Eve), says in the first series of clips, something to the effect of He went missing on the Friday, didnt come back on Saturday. But Im pretty sure they thought she was dead. They cant predict every little detail, every question the detectives would ask on a certain day, so maybe they had a way to swap if something went wrong? und the end: Cracks with Class. Hannahs fingerprints are taken during interview 2. Then I think that the police thought she was lying and asked her to actually play the guitar to prove it was hers, so she spills the coffee and then Eve comes back to play that song and show its really her guitar. Discover some algorithms you can use to solve tricky situations on a Rubik's Cube! You might have to go through the algorithm twice to solve the third layer edges; if this is the case, your Front face should be the same both times. Sorry, in 1.) Experiencing periods of inexplicable jealousy and rage, she feels she must be somehow responsible for the death of her sister who died with the cord wrapped twice around her neck. Getting the White Cross Without Disrupting the Rest of the Cube. The tattoo looking fake, though it *is* a fake tattoo (for the game) I guess the question is whether it intended to look fake? It was an invaluable tool when organizing the clips (since I did it the hard way) to make sure I wasnt missing any. I mentioned that to the dev. Hannah is shy, sexually repressed (slightly), unexciting (perhaps); Eve is everything she isnt probably everything he wished Hannah would be. I like the music, I just think the music together with the images give off this weird vibe (purposely). In one of the clips where Hannah talks about fairy tales, she talks about a book they used to have that had tissue paper between the image plates, and she talks about how the plates were in colour and so beautiful. The third one framing the two others as she exits completeley stealthy, the way she entered. We are all prone to whispering things under our breath or making statements to people who arent physically there. The idea being that you fill in the blanks of the story with your own experiences and end up talking about yourself without realising youre talking about yourself. So many things could just be taken at face valueor dissected. Wt..?! I did not notice this until I watched all the clips in order. Unless we are supposed to believe that something messed with the times, like a hacker. The orange is the minute hand, so 6:15. So this actually brought out another instance which supports the split personalities. The policemen are actually doctors. Any suggestions how you think it could be better? She mentions she chose Come Back And Stay as song for the first dance with Simon. 1) She is a twin. Just as an aside, the Steam version has all videos (including the credits) in AVI format in the directory its only a couple of quid on Steam so might be worth picking up to access those files . Oh, nevermind, friend, seems like Im way late to the party. Theres also the Glasgow trip, which clearly happened while Hannah was still in town. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Yeah, I guess it is possible. . She is psychopathic and coy, death doesnt really phase her and she really doesnt feel guilt for her actions, thus she is calm. , Exactly! Eve describes it in such detail, how big it is and how realistic it is. also a twin). All the coins can flip and be Red or Blue depending on the other coins around them. He is simply trying to gently take his mentally ill wife home without causing a fuss. Its a bit strange that we never get their names, though. Its not always easy to imagine what the police questions are likely to be. It bothered me that a wanted killer was able to raise his son how could she possibly raise a child on the run? OK. Im a little late to the party because Ive just played it, but heres my interpretation. Surprise! Cellar But on my iPhone, I saw it a lot more often, between clips. I think it is a reference to a divorce that can be seen as coming, but which has not happened yet. Like they swapped outfits in the movie theater? Basically, if theyre not twins, then they dont get away with murder. She exists. The second they take Eves fingerprints theyll see they dont match. For instance Clip 20: When he comes in, if hes in the house. Thats a strange way to put it. Thats me. Wondering if anyone else did. We will update you on new newsroom updates. They should match,if you watch the interviews with them being twins in mind the first time they take finger prints and the one who says go ahead theyll match would be one in the same. And a new tattoo would be red and swollen. So how would you explain the fingerprints the police asked about that were of a close relative to Hannah? I still need to rewatch the fingerprinting stuff. MI+=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD~~==~~~:::::~~===+=====~:~~:~:::::,,,,,,,,,,:?DN and SB is trying to help her to deal with all that. But Im not sure why she would do that. Also people saying about how if the girl wasnt let out by Florence she wouldnt have learned anything, she says that Florence taught her at home, so I dont think she would be much behind other kids at school, and when eve lived in the attic, they could have easily taken turns to go to school and then used the diary to catch up on what was missed. But happy to discuss it when people bring it up. The first time Im proposing the third personality interfered, it never came to light exactly what happened to her parents except that they died by poison and the girls had a hard time accepting it as an accident. If Hannah really did have a twin, Eve wouldnt have to hide from her own parents in the attic she would just come out and say that the crazy midwife said she was dead and raised her, but she was actually alive all this time. I hadnt, myself, ever seen anything that pointed to Simon being a twin. Especially when I was down to the last few and couldnt remember what they were. Hi everyone, I just finished the game and like others, spent way to much (highly enjoyable) time digging around, losing sleep and trying to piece everything together. Moreover, the fucking idiot occasion was the first time Hannah had her hair down perhaps in the twin theory, they were worried the police were onto the ruse via hair, and this was to throw them off? Remember, though, that the notations are all relative and are determined based on the cube's orientation. Like the tattoo, after spilling coffee. I hope thats the case. Eve did innumerable things, not the least of which was cover for the murder of Sarahs father. The reflection seems to stick around, though. Starting from Quiplash, if a certain word or phrase is said, Schmitty will have something to say about it (this doesn't apply to all prompts). But you know, every game lacks common sense some place, and you need to faulter a little to fit every desired scenario in it seems. She had transmigrated into a book. Then, maybe this is the missing volume? Maybe her not yet beeing an adult explains why SB filled in the Freedom of Information Act sheet for her? Ive done some research and ive seen a couple of weird things. Until they can know which of them actually committed the murder, I would argue strongly that they would want to keep what they do know close to their chests and try to gather more evidence. mine: 16/06/15, right now its almost 10 minutes to seven on it also something we havnt discussed: she is stating that she stays with a friend. Realistic. This is the only instance I found of this in the game. In the 1980s, Infocom was widely known as a computer game developer and publisher. Theres probably more that fits with my theory but its 5am and I cant think any more. Im still trying to understand what happened to Sarah in either scenario. She also mentions how can you arrest someone that doesnt exist then probably thinking of Hannah. The disease shows no sign of slowing down, and as MID progresses, one personality tends to absorb the rest, whether that personality is the original or not. There is always roughly 3 seconds in between clips. Eleanor Was HATING life when I looked up a search term to find it hit BIG, but was only permitted to view 5, mostly irrelevant snippets of the video file? Then she could sneak off or escape and make her way back home without the parents picking her up. Im sure the police have probably surmised that they are sisters even before this. happy child, than again: why is the police showing her pictures/illustrations of fairy tales so early in the investigation? And that wouldnt have been noted on my time sheet. Removing either would enter some sort of Status Que. I dont know about the rest of the world, but In England if you go to prison for a crime you didnt commit and are later found to be innocent wed call that a miscarriage of justice. Hannah might not have even known about the tattoo since Eve got it after she moved out. Maybe the aftermath of the confession, what Hannah and Eve did with what the third personality did, is the thing Sarah wants to understand. Eve also mentions them numerous times. at some point hannah says: i did not had sex with all those guys so the police would have a list or some names of those guys? It doesnt seem like he wants us to quit. Btw, I added more thoughts to my post, past the videos. Mirror twins. Good point. [534] OK. You got me. when i open this on my iPhone I have to scroll for years. Hannah was starting to get exhausted of the two of them always being together, sharing everything, being part of one another. Its morning sickness. Note that here, however, she is definitely still pretending to be Hannah at this point. This would equal about 14 hours distance when driving about 73 miles per hour or so. That perfectly explains why hannah looks like that she is staying in a madhouse with no face in credit 2:05. Before watching everything in order, I thought it might be split personalities, but after watching it all in order, I think the twins thing makes more sense. Username: Password: Remember Me. i cant sleep anyways, and i am just i dont know not scared, but something like that. Have you ever thought why so much is made of the fact that Simons body was found without his strong glasses, even though so much had been made of his not having been able to see very well without them? You know, when he has to read. The lists do not show all contributions to every state ballot measure, or each independent expenditure committee formed to support or Glad to know Im not the only one obsessed with this game, though. it is a good website 3x3 it's good website. user name=gonzalo Maybe the police had already been investigating and had a few suspicions, although Im not sure how they would have done this. So if they were one and the same thats because she is the same person. But isnt this what we would expect to see in someone who meets that one person who is able to satisfy their longings? :/. So someone inside the police force lied to SB, making it possible that someone inside the police tampered with the dates? Otherwise its all just a bunch of nothing. I love hearing everyones theories! Got the mirror gift, got mad at Simon then he hit her before she killed him. Simons disappearance occurred 16 June 1995 (Hannahs 30th birthday) Just add them to the rechargeable power base to build your own sculpture. The police must have got it from searching the house. I hope one day they give a definitive answer. I dont recall ever getting the name of Hannahs parents, Im certain we didnt. yes, my name is hannah smith, eventhough she should only answer with yes or no, smashing the moth with a copy of the arabian nights: seems odd to mention such a little detail, the only one anger you could have against yourself also sounds weird to say that after admitting that there are two persons, and all the stories weve been telling each other? Just that. I dont want to say anything while youre still working things out. Only thing I have to add currently is the interview (7) with Eve explaining the whole backstory there are very noticeable beach noises (waves, seagulls) in the background. and UNLOCK command it tells you to use at the end of the credits? Meanwhile, a mentally ill person who already is living with delusion could be equally deluded in thinking she could get a way with it when in reality she cannot be completely acquitted. These books are an essential part of any library. At least, thats what I get from it. And then Hannah doesnt really want to go back to how things were so Eve gets the blonde wig, moves out, gets her tattoo and starts to be her own person. Pure fiction. Maybe that doesnt even matter. This is proof that they are NOT the same person. .. In contrast, I feel there is proof that they are twin sisters, and this is most clearly demonstrated in the following facts: 1.) I was under the impression that Sarah was trying to find out why her mother killed her father. Our first instinct is to trust everything he tells us because he put in all the work and effort to make this information/game accessable for us. Not only do the videos not provide any explanation for anything Eve possibly did, they dont even contain anything that even *needs* any explanation from Sarahs point of view. I mean every child knows the police does that sort of thing, even back in 94. So if they were twins Eve hadnt done anything wrong. I think that the answer to your question probably lies in 768: We knew I, we, had an alibi and we wanted the body to be found later. also hannah says that her partents felt ill, like they had the flu, the night they went to bed before they died. For me, the weird part is when shes living in the attic after Hannah already moved out. Heres where I see two different paths depending on how evil Eve really is. The king, curious about how the story ends, is thus forced to postpone her execution in order to hear the conclusion. heart being on the right. But then, what about the speeding ticket: As far as the police are concerned, Hannah was caught on a speeding camera in February and the (Eves) explanation was that she had just popped out for something from work briefly. Up inverse (counter-clockwise 90 degrees). Eventually Eve escapes somehow and lives in the attic, occasionally coming out to pose as Hannah. Ouch! So, if Hannah has a guitar and plays it, the other has to play it too, else one day when Hannah is out and Eve is home, their mother might ask Eve to play them a tune, or ask why arent you playing, like you always do after school? And theyd have to be able to play it with the same handedness also. That would be amazing too insane to do it manually. Oh the clock seems to keep proper time, since it was 6:15 am when I checked it. I was thinking, how could they have done a previous investigation in her home following the bruise as a suspicion, but if there is now a body then they would have done an investigation of the house. So I wrote down some coffee-induced ideas I had, trying to explain what I was thinking. Also, I thought I saw a couple of clips that I didnt recognize from the game, but I could be mistaken. Looks rather fresh, right? Lets assume they were dating each weekend, then they went on their first date in early September 1983. Hello again, i have finished watching all the clips in the correct order now and have something like 4 pages of notes in front of me, but I dont tink it will be of great help, or possible to post here. Also, if Hannah and Eve could see each other from across the street and understand their resemblance, then surely their parents would have noticed at times. So does that mean he was cut into pieces in order to fit into multiple bags, or was he double-bagged (LOL!)? Or painted over to avoid staring at your reflection. the freedome of information act passed in 2000 Ill search and try to paste it here. do we know the time on Simons watch or are we just guessing from the glasgow timeline? Also, a ton of other weird sh*t is going on with wrong dates and other details, so we may not be able to even answer that question properly until we understand all the little details. Hannah is a palindrome, but but when you look at it in the mirror, its not quite the same.. Have to say though, when Hannahs face pops up on the screan after you watch particular clips, that really disturbs me, as does when the music starts to play. It may just be me not really knowing how long it would take her to go back from Glasgow, but it seems like she lost time. I do like the split personality theory and eve nthe clever woman idea, but it just seems too wildly implausible for a single person to have been able to put in this level of effort while making mistakes in so many places two people coordinating would likely make mistakes and one person never would. Its crazy, isnt it, how he crafter such a seemingly perfect game that we really dont want to find any mistakes. Instead of just removing the BLANK, you could have labelled them in sequence there and then since the videos turn up in sequels from interview 1 through to 7. And the reflection Eve sees has short hair, so in her mind she cuts her own hair to match. I believe there was only one mirror, and that Simon gave it to Hannah. Its much easier to catch little details. Assuming the impulse to drown her friend at the beach occurred between real people when did that holiday occur? yeah i dont know either, on pc its probably better if you leave it like it is cause its much easer to search through the whole document via ctrl+f when i am looking for something someone posted so maybe just leave it like it is. A thought about the inconsistency from Dianas divorce having been mentioned, when this happened after 1994 and shouldnt have been known about (although, of course, it could have been at least suspected at the time that it would eventually happen). 2. However, although no right-handed person would play a guitar the other way around, a good proportion of left-handers do play the guitar as a right-handed person would do. Im still trying to figure out whos in each interview, though. In the game, she says it was the year before they met Simon. For now, who knows. P.S. Hadnt thought of it that way. They were seventeen when they met. The constant references to switching and stories lend a huge deal of credence to the idea that either Eve, Hannah or both of them (if they are really are twins) plotted the entire thing with an unproven twin or insanity plea defence in mind. lester. But I dont know if theyll ever release them. Why would she lie about that little detail of all things? I used a made up name. She seems to behave in a more Eve-like way. For Hannahs birthday, Simon had given her a mirror that he custom made one of a kind. so the first interrogation was on 18/06/94 which was a saturday I believe it was just intended to make us think even if only for a brief moment that Simon might also be a twin. Slept with the lights on for two nights! Its pointless and works against the whole idea of the plan. Im starting to just think they were mistakes on Sams part. We have references to Grace Kelly and an .nfo file with a picture of Grace Kelly. To be honest 6th being Hannah was the very first thing that I thought for the exact reason you gave Coffee with Milk and Sugar. Would fit in nicely with the rest of the story. However I hate to say anything in the game is meaningless because Im sure it was all put there for a reason, but what?!? She would know the effect a fennel overdose would have for Hannahs pregnancy. She was still pretending to be Hannah at that point. After watching it all in order (granted, I still may have missed some small nuances theres a lot of info to take in! But, now I look back, I cant find the slightest bit of evidence to prove that they are one. I agree, the split personalities theory doesnt hold up at all. We have the barmaid Helen who places Simon in The Rock at Friday night. So she does the one thing she does best: spin a story that will make her an accessory to murder at worst, and at best, will leave so many holes that attorneys will be crying for reasonable doubt, but yet allow her sister to get away. If the days dont match the dates from 1994 or 1997, then dont we have to just accept the developer made some mistakes and forgot to check what days those dates fall on? Maybe she also realized that telling a story about a person that officially doesnt exist would sound suspicious. Nobody saw him on Saturday, as he missed his appointment with Eric in the afternoon. I think the glasses were meant to make us temporarily think Simon could also be a twin. Literally. You havent gotten to that point yet? It was a gift from Eric. Make sure to watch until the end of the credits! Which I guess is also the point is she a trustworthy narrator? +++=DDNNNNN===~~~~~~NNND~~DDDDDD:~~~~~~~~~~~==++?+++++=~~=====~~~~:::,,,,,. is going to appear convincing when lying, its going to be Eve. Oh, I wasnt clear about the tattoo. Im starting to see how your theory might work. Im going with split personalities which could be more than 2. The lottery tickets I think was just an oversight. However, its definitely ambiguous and multiple personalities would make sense too (I found the idea of a third personality to be especially interesting). that should be caught on a speed camera in Portsmouth, not Oxford. Hannah Smith is a twin but her sister, Eve, died at birth. Yeah. Years later, her daughter is authorized to look at the videos because she wants to understand the disorder of her mother. I cant remember where I got this link from. Also, it was Hannah who always wanted to be a mom. Yeah, there are definitely a lot of things that point to twins. Reflection Kind of a commentary on what happens when you rely too much on technology? One quarter (1/4) of all identical twins may be mirror twins. Its not ideal if you want to figure out exactly which page to jump to, though. On that note though, forgive me if this has already been discussed in detail but I was just pondering this theory after last night when I became convinced they were twins again: Aside from all the mirrors and the fairytales, one of the other biggest themes of the story, in fact the one associated with the mention of her story, is the idea that a mother will go to any lengths to have and keep a child. Btw, the wording on some of the clips where she talks about going inside seem weird to me. A few months later, her parents die in suspicious circumstances either because they discovered the truth, or knew she gave the baby away. Lots of Ds, Ms, Ns. I paid it without telling Simon. [530] You must be desperate for leads if youre getting hung up over six month old speeding tickets. That means, she could have left Portsmouth at around midnight. I love reading everyone elses interpretations and seeing that there are others losing sleep obsessing over this game like I am. I dont understand the last step the short algorithm one. Its possible that small blue shirt wasnt even hers. The other would read it so they both had their facts right. Also, for those who already completed the game or close to it, you can find videos of all the interviews in order here. They are videos of the answers to the lie detector questions. They asked about the speeding ticket (which sounds like something Eve would do) and it happened while Hannah was on record being at work, which hints at them being two people (or at least that Hannah has experience faking an alibi) Hannah even explicitly brings up that shes staying with a friend (which is also how she refers to Eve in two other stories where she brought Eve up, and she never mentions having any other friends) so the police probably could have just followed her home and seen Eve if they thought to do that. Im unsure about why you would think there is nothing in the sequence of video clips for Sarah to learn. I actually thought of removing that completely. However, there were some rather silly things such as Hannahs parents never visiting the attic, nor did the police when her parents died, yet there was clearly a big investigation. Why doesn't it work for me? I think she offered her fingerprints because the detective mentioned his twin theory. However I do not think that is so certain. It does look like open world is back though and that world looks distinctly Parisian! Thats why I was speeding. One slight oddity is that Portsmouth isnt in the South East its definitely in the South (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire_Constabulary for a map which lays it out). Perhaps she realizes that her double life with Hannah is destructive for her, and will be destructive for her future life with Sarah. Its a long one, so bear with me. And finally Eve doesnt care on the last day and just wears something normal , I am having way too much fun over-analyzing this . What if the whole game is some kind of homage to his mother (SBs), making people think about their relationship towards their own mums, as this is what the game is actually about (Hannah/Eves mother, both of them beeing mothers both to a miscarriage and a born child = Sarah, a bad mother in Florence, the Mother of Simon, with whome Hannah/Eve talks on a daily basis, Hannah/Eve doing everything, even murder to protect a child, nothing is more important than family) and the game being a mataphor for a life long attempt to understand this relationship destined to never really be solved? Thats some crazy territory were entering, since Ive no idea how were supposed to test these theories. Eve says he brought her to the house, almost like he wanted to be caught. Maybe he was checking to see if his wife was where she was supposed to be. (i found a need fact on the Internet: The whole Y2K problem was known already in the 80s, but it got more public advertence due to a reissue by McGraw-Hill under the title The Year 2000 Computing Crisis in 1996 so as the case happened in 97 they could have used that already back when the tapes were recorded as some sort of cover up story). But she also wasnt wealthy, just a poor midwife (I think), so that might be more difficult than it seems. Its heavily implied that Eve killed their parents with the mushrooms. But usually duplicate posts are only if its exact changing just one letter should allow it to post. Not sure if the glass is shattered maybe? Though it seems that the story could just as easily have been that she moved out and got a bedsit, realizing that she couldnt follow Hannah/Simon and move in with Simons parents, nor stay at home with her own parents and remain hidden. This is a list of very specific algorithms for specific situations where people commonly get stuck when trying to solve the Rubik's Cube. The coffee accident and fake vomiting allow the twins to switch mid -interview. Dont you think that, in a mystery puzzle like this one, the test of any theory is whether it answers one or more questions, without introducing any new ones? I think, more to the point, is what comes just before these words. Dianas divorce can be chalked up to her confusing separation with divorce. I guess Ill re-watch those clips. The only way Hannah knew how to cope with giving up her child was to believe she was dead and watching the interviews is Sarahs way of understanding why her mother abandoned her at birth. You just need to stick with it. Ill double-check, though, in case I just overlooked it. It resolves what appears to be an internal inconsistency in the only evidence we have, and takes us one step further to being able to avoid distraction through thinking that the whole thing goes deeper than it actually does that someone, somewhere, has tampered with the evidence by changing the date stamps on a video recording. If theyre one person, what fingerprints were the cops talking about? She is always stating that she doesnt remember certain things or it is hard to remember that far back and maybe the reason why she doesnt remember those details is because the other personality had taken over. Why call herself Eve, then? Was wracking my brain over this for ages thinking it was an error. Search for bruise Theres less inconsistencies. Yeah, look up photos of fresh tattos on the net. Upon clicking it you will be teleported in a closed sewer in Dalaran (under the grate to the left as you exit the inn for the horde) where you will find this NPC. Maybe she just meant the style of the coat? And think about it. Well, other than the fact that Eve acts smug and happy in the clip I mentioned. Its also more noticeable in older devices. Also, her losing the baby makes sense (another traumatic event). I may have to ask him in my interview, but not sure hell give a real answer. yeah otherwhise it would be a really long ride to glasgow xD, ok here is another take on the story: . For instance, when she throws up from morning sickness and comes back with her hair up maybe they swapped places in the bathroom (and shared the same outfit). Though I loved the beginning I have to admit the end was a little bit of a chore for me. Btw, my interrogation of Sam Barlow is back in progress and there have been some enlightening responses. , yeahbut even the street doesnt exit, there is a street called that in portsmouth, but it is in the states . Had room service. But now I realize they still werent. Everything seems to work Pingback: My Week Unwrapped: June 25, 2017 Telepaint, House of da Vinci, Age of Rivals, MechBox 2, The Little Acre and More | App Unwrapper, But the issue is this- there has NOT been any closure, not for me anyways, and I DO understand that they are two people and that it is not Hannah on the lie detector testing because if watched in order when you search the word Hannah you find a white shirt video of her hooked up to the machine spelling out her name. Someone matching Hannahs likeness was identified by staff as having checked in with Simon to a hotel in Oxford, 80 miles away, at the same time. So, it would seem sleep has evaded me once again. I still agree its most likely twins. Also, some of the things they ask her make me wonder. Same happens between D715 and D717 videos, therefore its not very likely that D716 is between these I dont know what to think now.. but definitely something smells fishy here.. It was just tagging all your posts as spam, so I never even saw them. Yeah thats Simons watch. As for the mention of twins, I think she just wasnt ready yet for them to find out. So i think Florence isn`t real and i lean towards MPD. Still not sure though. Ive got it! I dont think she explains the actual tattoo until the last interview. Interview 6, 2/7/1994: Hannah (pretending to be Eve, fingerprints offered) Hannah met Simon around September 1983 For myself, the only place where this stands out most clearly is in the speed camera photo and the clandestine romantic weekend in Oxford. The proceeding video segment had a time code of 14:36:56. Actually, about the tattoo and what not, she couldve gone to the extent of covering it with makeup. @Alyssa S. Thats interesting. So I think Eve, at least, had to survive this whole ordeal. -The game is (intentionally) lacking key pieces of information here which the in-game police obviously had access to: Evidence. Maybe they were trying to catch her own because of their suspicions that they were different people. Oh, and on the fingerprint piece using the black coffee is Eve and sweet tea is Hannah as a guide, its Hannah that offers fingerprints each time. She didnt have any problem with them. We can assume from the .txt files that someone told SB that story, also the date of the flood which seems to be incorrect as well. I just learned today only from one video and this site and I have already solved the cube multiple times, Im sorry but if you don't understand the cube yet you could have a certain disease called DUMBASSS! Shes probably the only criminal that I can honestly say that I dont blame her for a single thing. I know it was likely on purpose, but the cops would likely assume she is not Hannah at this point. So why would she need to watch these videos? Would be cool if theres something in there that we just havent figured out how to unlock yet. I updated some things near the bottom of the post. June 2015 (according to steam) So why is that? MMNNOO8DNZ7:~~~::::~~:~~~,I7III::::~~~~~===+==,? W I T H ,,::::MDD~~~~========~~~~===========+===~~:,,,.,~NNMMMMMM so it would be somesort of hallucination sarah has? Ill post my own thoughts when Ill be done with all the posts here (quite interesting). And if thats true, whos lying to us/Sarah and why? Perhaps theyre hazy about whether she had a tattoo before and feel they need to go back to the tapes and check? THE ATTIC is this an analogy for her (Hannahs) own mind? The reason she does not immediately turn her sister in is simply because she also wants to protect Eves baby. I think its a small, hand-held mirror as you can see the handle there for it. I barely did when playing on my iPad Air 2. any luck? First interview took place 18 June 1995. . I dont think there is anyway Eve got away with her murder of Simon who actually loved and married Hannah. Comment by Venex Whenever you use the engineering Wormhole Generator: Northrend you have a chance of getting an option called "Underground" along with the other locations available. I love how both the female leads in Reply 1994 & 1988 ended up with the ones they chose. Read more. DI: So, where were you going, miss, in such a hurry? I did notice that face Eve made when she mentioned the mushrooms. Unless she raised Sarah and is therefore being called her mother? But there is still the big question posed to Sarah by SB via Chit-Chat. Affair From the start I was a very strong proponent of the multiple personality theory, particularly as I think theres a few elements that are harder to explain if theyre two separate people, but last night I became convinced it was actually all very straightforward and they really are just twins. Eve cant stop using we when talking about Hannah, herself and the new baby. Makes me wonder if were on some treasure hunt that will lead to a proper reveal. Btw, speaking of outfits I havent mentioned this before, but what if there was some way for them to switch places on the same day, like they did that the movies? Keep coming back to that. Camera My name?So these things do work She already introduced herself as Eve on that day in previous videos. To me it makes sense as When he comes in, if hes [staying] in the house. If hes going out again, then he wouldnt take it from his back pocket. . In both cases, when Hannah faced a traumatic moment about the identities, she killed the people closest to her who knew about the identities. ODD) SB tells us that there was a flooding in 97 which actually occured in Portsmouth in 2000 Here at Very, we have adorable baby dolls from names including Baby Annabell and Baby Born. Eve is her companion, but also her outlet for doing things that the quiet and shy Hannah cant do. If she was raised by either Hannah or Eve, couldnt she just ask them what happened instead of seeking out the archives? And shes never coming back. Prior to this interview, they have realised that the game is up and one of them is going to have to take the rap. 3. That would feel like a cop-out. Weird. What Ive loved about the Sims 4 is that it has a great amount of European worlds. Seven-year-olds everywhere know that slime has been a craze for the last few years. So perhaps Sarah is trying to understand what happened to send her mother into such a spiral, a descent into madness. If it was Eves and they had found it, then the would have found other evidence of another person living in the house, and that would have been game, set and match, methinks! I dont know that I would think to check what year the lottery was started if I were writing a story. Could be a fake as discussed. We all come to different conclusions from different things that stand out to us. Would that be possible? GOLD: LOL Surprise! I guess Eve could have known about that and played a part in the miscarriage. Well, Florence (the midwife) told their mom that one of the twins died in childbirth. I think she became Eve by putting on the long blonde wig and used the story of Grothel to create Eves mother, Florence. [531] There was a conference. 6. And I think the days of the week not matching the actual dates is meant to indicate that the police camera could have been set to the wrong year by mistake. Everyone thinks Hannah is the killer because she is. Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:58 am. I dont know if I am to ask for permission since it is the work of SB. I wasnt sure if it was really supposed to be Grace Kelly before, because it looked more like a man to me. As youve said yourself, I was in Portsmouth at the time, skipping work and running a speed camera., This is a deduction, based on the evidence that we are given. The year on the date stamp of the videos is clearly wrong, out by one year. She/he came out during Hannahs first pregnancy, and she/he came out when Simon discovered Hannahs illness and Hannah killed him. Wow, there are a lot of comments here, and I havent read through all of them, but Ill state some reasons on why I support the multiple personality theory: With this logic, we go back to the first interview and can see that its not 8pm on 18/06/94 but instead it is 8am on 19/06/94 (which was a Sunday). Good point. The lack of actual evidence makes the story way more up for interpretation (intentionally). I guess it could illustrat that Hannah/Eve split personality was very mentally unwell. I think she wanted to rid herself of the other personality and it is not a real occurrence but thoughts. If theyre twins, everything falls very beautifully into place when Eve shows up on July 3 to tell their story and confess everything. So she/he only appears when the girls are thoroughly backed into a corner, so to speak. You can see how peoples brains are working, really working on those cogs! Are we to believe what Eve is telling us? Once again, good job! Then I started thinking it was dissociative identity disorder. Added it to the post. It is all great and all fun Take a look back to a more funky time. Scared the sh Out of me! /Mattias. In case you guys are really stuck and want to have a look at the videos, go to the installation folder. The dissociated states are usually believed to be fixated early selves stuck in a moment just prior to the when the trauma happened. And virginity, unfaithfulness. Perhaps seeing Hannahs bruise on one side, she hit herself on the other side (like other self sabotage she did in the past, like with the hairbrush) and covered both up with makeup. Too exact. Lol! Chicken pox causes fever and needs to be attended to by a doctor. BestReviews has helped millions of consumers simplify their purchasing decisions, saving them time and money. . I think that could still work both ways. Help! Not too many people seem to be entertaining the idea that shes just a really clever woman who fabricated this whole story and planned out every little detail so the police would believe her twins story at the very end and let her go. Im having a hard time wrapping my head around this theory, but Ill think about it more. I think minor plot holes are inevitable in such an elaborate story. Different formats do it different ways; its possible it could be overwritten later. And Eve even said was wondering if he might be a different person because of how he reacted (ie. This means that Simons official time of death should not be earlier than 2 or 3 am. If its multiple personalities, they could be communicating with each other. Both loves fairy tales and theres a moment when Eve talks about how they found simon, by playing ouija board of course. Still missing a bucket of clips, but wont mind a spoiler. Its Her Story. Im not convinced of the split personality theory as I was whilst going through the game and putting my thoughts together, but this does freak the fudges out of me! Anyways, thats my theory as of right now. True. They live in Portsmouth which has several beaches. Its rare for me to be interested in behind-the-scenes or extras for anything, but I would totally pay to watch Sam Barlow and Viva Seifert discuss the game. This is a bit conspiracy-theory-ish, but the age of Eves daughter is tied to when the crime took place as Eve was pregnant during the interview. MNNNNNN~:~$ZI+???I? True. I think the answer to all this has to be the twin hypothesis because Eve answered only one question wrong on lie detector test and that was her name. Sarah, Mirror They cant predict everything the cops will do or ask, so maybe they planned a way to swap the same way they did at the movies? DI: Perhaps you were rushing to see your husband, in Oxford. Never playing this game on my phone! Conference Did she then kill Hannah? On the mac version, you can unpack the app and look at the video assets, which comprise 272 files plus the credits. -. It made me think of the old cameras and how they would flash 12:00:00AM when you first turned them on. Also, with the speeding ticket, is it possible that they used this to determine if Hannah and Eve were different? The minute and second hand go by the time on your PC/device. That supports the idea that there were two mirrors, but its possible Simon just saw the Eve/Hannah distinction as a game and really did want Eve to be around instead of Hannah. Im going from the start again. Again, shes trying to convince the police up until the last interview that shes one person. The (changed) videofiles make us believe both the murder and her birthday(s) accur on June 16th, also the year mut be off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portsmouth, Aso the hint at the of the readme: Take your time. Like you said, it was very romantic. Check out Daily Deals from BestReviews. But I think her personalities thought the other existed as a twin. On a few occasions, Hannah grows tired and frustrated of keeping the wills of both girls alive within her and often becomes jealous that Eve is more popular than she is. Diary in the beginning i thought twin story. While Im on the multi-personality side of the fence, there is another differentiator thats woven into the story; tea (with sugar), which is strongly linked to Hannah, and coffee, which is preferred by Eve. If you havent got the when then you cant even get to the where were you on the night of This is the reason I had spent so long trying to resolve the apparent inconsistencies in the days and dates from the first interview. In any case, why? Timeline = good! That stopped watch any thoughts on why the computer clock has the hour hand stuck around 7? Neither Hannah nor Eve had had their finger prints taken before. Oooooo I think I have an idea of what it does. Are the dates intentionally wrong on there? the black and white also made me remeber when Hannah looks at the pictures they show her in the beginning and she asks: Are one of them in colour? is that a figure of speech, or might she not be able to see colours? You can also add your own keywords to each clip so you can find it again. Oh ok maybe. She knows that her mother wasnt expecting twins, and thinks that she wanted the birth to continue to be perceived only as a happy occasion. She might still have ended up in prison that we wont know. =]. The following algorithm is used to align the corner pieces in the third layer. Its like I think Ive mentioned earlier. Enjoy! It was the third interview only. admin_random is the only way to find them. The first interview time stamp says 19:17 hrs. No so how were you in two places at once? They wait until the next day to follow that line of questioning, giving Hannah/Eve a chance to plan things out for the next two interviews. It was almost as if it was a different Simon.? NNNNNNNNNDN8~,=7?7I7$III7I?++++===~~::..:,,:++~,,,ODDNNDNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDD I still think the clock on the PC being stuck around 7pm might be related, though. On the night of their marriage, Scheherazade begins to tell the king a tale, but does not end it. Im calculating that this should have happened in 1983, from piecing everything together around that time. BUT as I said there has NEVER been a documented case of someone having DID or MPD and able to function on a normal day to day basis and Transition the way you see in movies, television or games. I have a list of my own questions, but if anyone has any, let me know and Ill consider including it. 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